A live room for pastors and church leaders · 45 minutes on Zoom · Free

You know your people. Come find out the season they're in.

Corey and Jared open a room for pastors. The season your church is in, said back to you in your own words. The one thing about your people that no system in your building can tell you. And a look at what it takes to find out.

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Every Tuesday. Pick the date that works when you register. Cameras optional, chat open, and we start and end on the minute.

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What this is

Two men who were loved by their churches and never asked what they carried. Corey played bass because bass was the thing anyone could see. Jared works in church software, and the church that married him never learned what he did for a living. That is the problem in your room this Sunday, and it was never a leadership problem. It was a visibility problem.

This room is forty-five minutes on what the research says about the people in your seats, why "I know my people" is true and not enough, and what asking looks like when it is built for you. Then your questions, and one next step.

You cannot activate what you cannot see.
What happens in the room

Forty-five minutes. Four parts.

1

The season you're in

The first thing we ask is which season your church is in: growing, steady, stretched, or in transition. Then what pastors in that season say they need most, from Lifeway, Barna, and the Unstuck Group, and why none of it can be answered from an attendance report. The two research pages come with your registration, so we start from them instead of re-proving them.

2

The reveal

What it looks like when every adult in your congregation is invited by text into a short, private experience on their phone, and the whole room comes back to you: gifts, skills, availability, who's ready to lead, who's burning out, and the season each person is in, in the same four words. Shown on a sample, never a real church. It reads from the pathway you already run; nobody keeps a second board.

3

Your questions

Ten minutes for the hard ones. How many people actually answer, what it costs, how long this has existed, what happens if it surfaces more need than you can handle, and what it writes to your database. We answer the way the paper answers, and the page for your executive pastor and elders comes to you afterward.

4

One next step

A 20-minute call with our team, if you want it. Not a demo: a conversation about your season and whether this fits it. Nothing else is sold from this room.

CoreyTwenty-three years consulting churches and organizations, diagnosing what's actually wrong before anyone spends a dollar on a fix. Carries the why.
JaredYears inside the systems churches run on. Carries the machine, and the room.

Software can score your people from attendance. It can't tell you their season. You have to ask.

Said in every room
Who it's for

Come if this is you. Skip it if it isn't.

This room is for

  • Senior, executive, and campus pastors who want to know their people by season, not just by name.
  • Leaders whose faithful few are carrying it, and who suspect the bench is sitting in the room unasked.
  • Churches of any size. The only thing size changes is how many people are unseen at once.
  • Pastors who would rather see the instrument before they talk to anyone about it.

It won't fit if

  • You're not ready to walk with people beyond Sunday yet. This will feel heavy, and that's an honest answer.
  • You're looking for a vendor to run your church's engagement for you. The seeing is on us. The leading is yours.
  • You want to see another church's results. You never will, from us. That's the same reason yours stay private.
Straight answers

What a pastor usually asks before registering.

Is this a sales pitch?

Twenty minutes of teaching you can use whether or not you ever talk to us, ten minutes showing you the instrument, ten for your questions, and one next step. The pricing is public and we say it once. That's the whole pitch.

Do I need to prepare anything?

One thing, and it takes about a minute: the Lens at unseenchurch.com/lens. It's a small taste of what your own congregation would experience, and it's the best way to arrive with your season in mind.

Will my camera be on? Will other pastors see me?

Your camera is your call. It's a Zoom room, so other attendees can see who's there, and most pastors keep their camera on because the chat is where the best part happens. Register under your name; you'll be among peers.

What if I can't make it live?

Come to the next one. There is no replay, on purpose: the room is a conversation, and the part that matters is the part where you talk. Attendees get the report the room is built on, What Pastors Want Most, with every source, and the page written for executive pastors and elders. The free book is still there for anyone who wants the long version.

Save your seat

Pick a room. We'll send the link.

Pick a date below. The Zoom link and the calendar invite arrive by email, with a reminder the day before and an hour before.

Bring your executive pastor or an elder if you want a second set of eyes; one registration per person so everyone gets the link.

What we won't do

Add you to a drip you didn't ask for. Show your church's data to anyone. Sell anything from the stage but one next step.

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